Now we can afford depression

Title : Now we can afford depression
Details : Acrylic painting on canvas , 885x740
Frame : 45mm wide pine moulding painted burnt sienna and gold
 
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This image has been used by the National Alliance People's Movement's Magazine, India for their special issue
- October - November 2006


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Love this. Reminds me of the Bowie song Sound and Vision. "Blue, blue, electric blue, that's the color of my room where I will live. Blue, blue."
Betty B, USA, June 20
Intriguing and powerful work.
Grahams, UK, June 20
Love this. Reminds me of the Bowie song Sound and Vision. "Blue, blue, electric blue, that's the color of my room where I will live. Blue, blue."
Betty B, USA, June 20
Literally in a blue mood…
Valerio, Italy, June 20

I love the colours you've used here... not entirely sure I agree with your message though.
Do you not think rich people can be genuinely depressed? It is an illness after all, a chemical imbalance in the brain, and illnesses by nature do not discriminate in terms of wealth or class. The wealthy can still get physically ill... you wouldn't say, "You're really rich, you've no reason to have cancer." How do you know, without being actually inside somebody's head, that depression is merely a fashion statement for them and not an actual, debilitating condition?
Carlie M, UK, Feb 17

From day one, this one has been controversial with viewers here. Not so much in India. I think it has to do with class but not in the sense you say, more cultural environ than economic class. This too was about the same time [almost-to-day] as the 'off to kill someone else's father'. I was rather new here and perhaps still coping up with the culture shock.

What I saw here was - almost everybody's basic needs are met - food, clothing, shelter and secondary too more or less - security, education, etc. And everybody is 'stressed out'. So the bottom-lines in India and here are vastly different. There sheer survival is a problem - to meet the basic needs. And we have a rising class of neo-rich against dirt-poor. Painting is more addressed to this class than a universal statement. Not only that the arrogance of the neo-rich is to blame the victims of the system - the poor for their plight and India not 'growing' fast enough - that's a different topic though my resentment against this class is the prime motive behind this pic.

I have been challenged during discussions here when I show the pic for real - 'I hope you are not talking of clinical depression'. I am not. I am neither undermining depression of tsunami, earthquake, war victims. This is about the class for whom it indeed is a fashion accessory. I see two or three strong currents behind this depression - one is over-consumerism [if there can be such a term] where people have become what they buy with money - my house, my clothes, my car - mere symbols make me up, decide my station in society, my self-image. But these symbols don't make me wholesome, so vacuity and depression and 'buy peace of mind', as if it were a commodity. Second current is medicine - and relatedly pharmaceuticals. They will invent an illness where there is none. Third current is 'alternative therapies' whether yoga- meditation or reiki or  feng-shui or scientology - this is a growing business. Lots of money is involved in it. It is this lobby's interest as much as medicine's to keep people constantly under some fear.Some close Indian friends here are very actively dedicated to some sect or the other. One is called 'Art of Living' . They charge you some 250£ for a three day- 4 sessions course - every 2 months or so!You attend the session of 3 hours and turn up the next day meaning lodging boarding is not covered in those 250£. Obviously only the affording will attend it and stick to it.

Just y'day there was a discussion going on on Sky - are we a nation of hypochondriacs? - I don't know why it took them so long - 13-14 years! - to bring up that topic.

As against the reading here, in India it is immediately seen the way I intended. Must be cultural difference, I guess.

anyway, I very much welcome different ways of looking at the issue and disagreements. If you spell out yours, we can talk.

By the way, the best comment I have had on this pic  -

'oh, I thought depression was free!' That still makes me smile.
CK Purandare

I agree with many of your socio-political points, just not sure we're on the same page with regards to defining "depression". When I studied psychology we were told that depression as an illness often has no specific cause. So if a person was grieving after a personal loss or traumatised by war or natural disaster, from a psychiatric perspective they wouldn't be described as having depression... grief, trauma or PTSD may apply, but we were told "depression" is usually only diagnosed when the problem is long term and not a reaction to a specific event. However, I only studied psychology to A-level, so maybe the definition is broader when studied at university level. The definition has also become problematic due to possible overuse and self-diagnosis, so maybe we are on the same page with our attitudes towards "therapy as a fashion statement" culture.

On a personal note, I guess the piece strikes a nerve because during times of severe mental instability I've been judged by some for not managing a socially acceptable level of sanity despite the privileges of my First World upbringing. You know from reading my book that I'm not some spoiled rich brat but I've had that assumption made about me by others, possibly because I'm quite well spoken or because I have access to a computer. While on a global scale I've had quite an easy life, it's still been my own personal hell at times. This makes me try not to judge another person's suffering as being fake just because their life looks easy from my perspective, even though some people test my patience at times.

By the way, I'm not saying you are necessarily making those kind of judgements yourself, just that it could be read that way. It's definitely an interesting piece of work to have inspired such debate and varied interpretations.
Carlie M

Thanks Carlie for a detailed response! I truly appreciate it.

Idea is to provoke, not just produce eye-candy or something so abstract nobody can connect with it. As said in my earlier reply, this is not a universal statement. Nor am I conversant with definition of Depression - how it differs from trauma or anxiety...Nor do I ever undermine or trivialise somebody's anguish. Still, the basic aim of my work [I dare not call it 'art'] is to document social pathology. Where does a phenomenon fit into social scene? I mean global scene. So all I am saying is depression has a class facet, often ignored. It can be seen more in the West but also in haves in developing countries. 

Your point re being nonjudgmental is interesting too. This is quite a dilemma for me. If I am value neutral, I really support status quo. I have no statement to make. And that is wrong. You know Graham Greene used to say something like - it is duty of an artist / we owe it to society...to be a piece of grit in the state machinery. Since his time, State has other contenders to control the system - mentioned earlier like medicine-pharmaceutical nexus, paranoia creating agents, etc. Someway, I would like this venture of mine to be upsetting, not for the sake of it, not as a rabble-rouser but to say something I see as having some validity. Necessarily, it becomes a generalised statement seen by a viewer thru' the individual life-experiences - and that can become contentious.

Anyway, whether we agree or not I really like that we have some discussion on an issue. That is very important to me. I am grateful to you for sparing some thought and time for furthering the discussion.
CK Purandare

I honestly think this is one of your best works .... perhaps because I can relate to it so deeply now I'm at this stage in my life. Depressed myself, and ashamed of being depressed. When I look at my TV and see people
without homes
without food
without family
without medical care
without a country
without peace
without possibilities
So .. yes I'm ashamed and your painting reminds me ... very therapeutic ...
Which shows that every single person will see his or her own ´truth´ in a work of art.
- Ellen, The Netherlands, April 04
 
...this talked to Me, I had lived in depression and realy i know what is it, you have described it wonderfuly here, by the colours, and the distorted perspective, really we are at the psychedilic point - as you described it above "now we can afford depression"- just where we let depression coming over us to take us to the dark side.. the colors will start to disappear one after other and the last one will be the dark blue before the total darkness.
thanks for this Art moment.
- GT, Jan 10
Very Interesting.

I was wondering, what did you have in mind while drawing this piece?
Genny Raskin, Israel; Nov 10

as to what I want to convey -

the woman may be in her 30s, in palatial surroundings. These days 'depression' has become an 'in' thing for such or middle class anywhere in the world.Depression of a billion in the world who go hungry to bed every night all through their life,that of victims of tsunami or earthquakes is perfectly understandable to me, not of this class. The painting is a caustic comment on this class.

Not surprisingly, treatment of depression is big business now - whether feng Shui, Reiki, yoga, meditation... all props for further self-centredness [actually the very root cause of the ailment, as I see it!]
and to those who can 'afford' it.That is why the full title - now we can afford depression.
Purandare

Actually when confronting depression it's very complicated issue, and you showed one very important side of it. But it's only one side.
I was almost always in depression. I tried to fight it off - all alone, it was a battle never to be won or over and at some point I grew tired and almost gave up. Only in the last year I started a medical treatment, and it really helps. I don't need to fight anymore, I can have my life and live it. So yeah, there is definitely this side - when people use what they have out of boredom and ignorance (and other causes), but on the other side - there is a bright practical part, since many people, like me can be happy.
Genny Raskin
i love this…because it shows that no amount of money can make people with depression happy. if i only had (enter anything here) i'd be happy... no, you wouldn't.
Ron Ray, USA, Nov 10
well,

your interpretation is valid of course

but what I intend to convey is that Depression has become a commodity , a fashion accessory these days - for the affording upper and middle-classes
- that is why the full title -
now we can afford Depression.

I can understand Depression of the Haiti earthquake victims, of the tsunami victims or war -victims...but this is an industry now to treat the well-to-do for their fancy ennui through Reiki, yoga, feng-shui, scientism and what your purse can finance.The painting is aimed at this class.
Purandare

yes, i definitely understand your view. every other person i meet tells me that they've been diagnosed as bi-polar. it's s new money-making fad. but having suffered from major depression since i was a child, (back when depression just meant that you weren't feeling happy), there has never been enough money or fame or glory or even love to keep it away. so my take on it is that of an insider, one who chugs pills daily to keep from killing themselves.
Ron Ray
My favorite quote from the film 'barfly': 'It's like living in a prison with golden bars.' This painting says it all. I have just commented on your painting 'needs, not wants'. This painting, 'depression...' is the flip-side of the same coin. Your paintings really have, not only artistic quality, but also strong messages. Wonderful.
- D, Canada, July 07
This is a masterpiece...this one grabbed me and pulled me in. If a painting has such a power to touch someone so distant, you know you have succeeded. I love everything about it. It reminds me of some of Bonards work. Most of all I love the girl in it. The way she is laying , looking, I love how you took advantage of the power of the color blue.
- Sarah, USA, Mar 04
The contrast (red and blue) creates an interesting tension in the picture. It seems, that every colour has got an own story, but they would always need the facing colour. They build a wonderful cool mood with a touch melancholy.
I love the style and the composition of that piece!
- EdG, Germany, Oct 08
This one is quite thought-provoking. I did not understand it until I read the full title. Very nice and funny in a sad way.
- Juliette Caron, USA
The drawing style may be different... this reminds me very, very much of Van Gogh in the period right before he died. Now, I happen to be a HUGE Van Gogh fan, so that definitely is a compliment, haha. May I ask how long it took you to make this work? At any rate, I will check out the rest of your gallery, but right now I'm just going to sit here for a bit and appreciate this fine piece of art. I really like it, keep it up; a talent like yours should definitely continue making works like this.   I just love it and can't think of anything else to say in criticism.
- Jonas Vincken, Belgium, Mar 04

I know this kind of feeling and these kind of colors. It's a good illustration . Do you know William Styron, darkness visible- a memoir of madness. I read it in french.
Helene Grasset, France, Jan 07

I like the strong colors a lot. At first I thought that I couldn't see depression in that colorful room, but when I saw closely I noticed how empty and cold that room is, in spite of all the colors. Very beautiful and expressive painting.
- Ely, Italy, May 05
GORGEOUS piece!!! I have been there, still am going through Depression. Wonderful use of color, everything is amazing.
- Rachel, USA, Mar 05
I'm not sure what all I could say for this, being a literature observer more than art, but I like this. I like your title, though I'm unsure of your intent with it; perhaps it reflects the possessions in the image, meaning that with everything in the world (assumingly) one can then afford to be depressed. That's how it struck me at least. I also like the blue theme to the image with relation to the whole depression issue. I had to look a second time to pick up on that.
- Jon Craven, Canada, April 04
It is a good painting…interesting to see how you've used the primary colors. And the amount of them. Was that something you were aware of when you made it, or did it just feel right? You've made lots of details here, and some may be impressed by that. But also a detailed and well painted work can be bad, if the artist isn't aware of his/her own composition. Not saying that your is!Yellow is the lightest color - and therefor needs less space to get the needs attention. Well done! You calm it all down by using most blue - in a cold tone, which gets warmed up by the red. I also like how you have not centered the image! That would have destroyed it all. You have also managed to tell me what is important here - the lady in front, and the large wall to the right. They make in invisible line which the viewers eye automatically follows. By being aware of that when you place elements, you make an invisible line between the elements. That way you can very much decide how the viewer is to "read" your image. A good thing to know.
Nice shading within the colors, and good use of perspective!
- Jannicke, Norway, Mar 04
It really shows depression, from the way it was painted to the heavy use of blue, it makes for a great painting.
This is great work, very good, its your style and that shouldn't be changed
- Luke, USA, Mar 04
Nice. The blue certainly does the trick. it portrays the depression well. I like the full title too, it suits the painting perfectly. (most people think money will make them happy...)I like how the blue becomes darker the further into the corner (bottom left) you go. It makes me feel like I'm actually a part of the room itself, looking out at everything. The woman's facial expression is nice too. It really seems like she thinking 'how did I get like this' or something. Very contemplative, almost emotionally tired. Good job!
- Maddie,USA,Feb 04
 
Man, you are a genius with colours, honestly terrific work. Wow I haven't used terrific in a while, I think I will use it more often now. HUh. Oh yah, very nice piece, reminds me of Picassos blue period
- Fil Blicharski , Canada , Feb 04
Just beautiful..maybe I am attracted to this because I can relate..I love the colors too..The message is heard loud and clear..
- KT, USA, Feb 04
This is an awesome piece. The colours are strange, but gorgeous. I love how the main figure is looking away from the room full of expensive things, further pushing the idea that the material is separate from happiness, you know? Powerful message too. The title is also great, very profound.
-Lawrence, USA, Dec 03
Ooooh, anything even remotely related to depression is good. But this! This is...so un-borj-wa(Sp)! I like, I like it a lot.
- Jayden Leigh Scholz , Australia, Dec 03
I like the message. Money can't buy happiness. Still, we try to believe it does. The woman's expression is good. She looks like she's disappointed in the false belief. Her posture shows that she's trying to relax but feels all clenched up inside. I love the colour scheme, very fitting. Beautiful painting all in all.
- Gita , Australia, Nov 03
I love this! It's amazing! I love the blues and the golds and reds... I love how even the richest people in the world pretend to be happy but aren't. Could this girl have possibly sold her soul and happiness to have riches? I just love the concept, and I can't stop looking at it so..
- Kate, USA , Nov 03
all your work is great, but I am drawn to this one the most.
- Cile Bailey , USA , Nov 03
it's a great piece, and I really like the colors you've used. Detail is also wonderful. Hats off.
- Aziza Mansuri, USA , NOV 03
Wow, I thought depression was FREE!
- Lucas Seven , USA , Nov 03
Wow I really like this work. It's very blue and not very cheerful, which makes it seem like the person is fading into the room as if he has lost his identity/ very well done, the colors are very well placed. I like the crude details as well as the sharper points of this piece
- Taree Lynden Alder, Ireland, Aug 05
It's a great piece.
Sarah, Canada, Dec 06

Fantastic message.
I definitely feel a sad/creepy vibe. It's gorgeous.
Julianne, USA, April 07

Doesn't looks like depra 4 me, more like sadness & bloom. i'm impressed by colour interpritation
Saba, Russia, April 09
The colours are beautiful, the complimentary colours blue and orange are really expressed in a good way! Great!!
Amy Chiu, Hong Kong, June 09
I like how you used red and blue with golden as the highlight color and I also like how its kinda distorted to show the emotions .
Maya, USA, June 09
great work. very original. Like it a lot
ER, Ireland, July 10
Great work ... It speaks for itself .. This feeling is beautiful.
Neja Helal, Saudi Arabia, July 10
I like the bright gold.
Izzy Thomlinson, UK, July 10
I really admire this piece
Rohrig, USA, Aug 10
Great concept painted in here, and such a great job on details, also the color palette chosen is really original.
Gustavo Guillermo Perez, Mexico, Dec 12
Really, there are two ways to look at this. One way would be to say “ah, here is pampered wealth with nothing better to do than indulge in selfish preoccupation.” Look at the ills of the world and compare it to the good life being led by this self-absorbed individual.

Another way to look at it is that people struggling to exist can not afford the luxury of depression. However, this does not mean they are not depressed any more than it means that people who have managed to pull themselves into a position of material comfort have no reason or right to be depressed.
This is a bit of a sore spot. Perhaps I do not have the intended interpretation. I think in a broad study it is a good metaphor although I take issue with using depression as a theme, not the art, just the title. Boredom, or ennui?
- Grace
Both the ways are intended in the picture, in a rather populist way.
It is more against 'Depression' as a fashion accessory.
Boredom or Ennui may not have punch or common appeal as Depression.
Further, I had something more in mind while doing this piece.
Depression and its treatment have become a whole industry these days. Being stressed out, depressed seems to be an in thing. And quacks promote feng-shui/yoga/meditation/reiki..... to treat it.
Most of it costly indulgence for the affording.
Now perhaps the title is clearer to you?
- CKP
Up to a point.

Depression is a real issue. Is it life and death? No, only in some cases of suicide, but nevertheless, it affects millions of people
- Grace

I like the ambience of this painting
Amo, Canada; July ‘12
Like those so wealthy, that they can afford to avoid food...
The posture of the figure as well as the strong use of blue tones gives me a sense of drowning/being underwater/overwhelmed - by possessions, perhaps, but also the weight of expectations, and the lingering unease of confusion - Shouldn't I be happy? Why aren't I? Oh it's all so dreadfully unpleasant....better to think upon other things...
Drowning in want-have, instead of finding their own shoreline - the seated figure could be in a languid, indulgent frame of mind - or confused, lost, empty in those rare quiet moments where something, or someone isn't present to distract them from it. They have nothing else to do. They have not been challenged or asked to be anything ELSE. They are lost.
The red to me connotes opulence, but also made me think of blood/life/veins, the inexorable march of a human lifetime against that lifetime's achievements and collections.....
Bringing to mind the aristocratic families and their walls of portraits - (I once rather liked that idea, but now find rather macabre), their "blood/history" coursing through the house, because that is where their life "is" - that is how they are defined - in the things around them - and not INSIDE them.
RM, Finland, April ‘13
I know what that feels like!
Emily W, USA, July 17